Disrespecting un-Americanised Asians

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

It's just like SWK to take something obvious and twist it into a personal attack. Social ineptitude depends on the context, you can be great in China but come to America you may become socially inept (and vice versa). Being an un-Americanized FOB will make you socially inept since the context is now American style dating. That's nothing earth shattering.

So if you want to define FOB as un-Americanized then sure FOB = socially inept at American style dating.

I also find it funny how you generalize all American-born Asian girls.

Let's change the subject just a bit. Is American-style dating getting popular around the world? I define American-style dating as looking for love, and giving the girl alot of attention, equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect.

Are girls all over the world becoming more attracted this style? If so, why? Did some cultures not even have a "real" style of dating?

Personally I think it is the natural evolution (irregardless of culture) of women gaining more equality, prominence and say in their own relationships. And the smart guys are naturally evolving too to adapt to give women what they want. The guys who don't adapt are being left behind as they should (like un-Americanized FOBs trying to date in American girls.)

you are a piece of work, because "i find it funny how you generalise all fobs".

and take it from one who has participated in "Chinese-style dating" as well as "American-style dating" - whatever the fuck those terms means, i assume i've done both because i've dated both in Asia as well as in America. "Chinese-style dating" also means: looking for love, giving the girl a lot of attention, equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect.

you are truly a fine example of a Jook Sing - you look down on fobs even more than white people do.

[deez nuts]

Originally Posted by golden_buns

I see Proud's point to an extent. In my case, eventhough I lived all my life in a western country when I first moved to the States I found it hard to date amercian girls mainly because the culture, humor, and conversation subjects where very different. Plus not being fluent in english and not being to communicate nor express my thoughts how I wanted was another problem.

that shit don't matter, brother buns. my nickname in college was the "international man" way before austin powers came to be. my game and pimp pimp playah playah skills transcends the international date line.

i prefer the nickname carvel though, cuz i had all 31 flavas.

edit: **pats self on the back**

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

Originally Posted by SunWuKong

you are truly a fine example of a Jook Sing - you look down on fobs even more than white people do.

No I think it is 100% personal SWK.

[deez nuts]

oh lookie lookie....fobs and bobs versus jook sings the sequel.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

No I think it is 100% personal SWK.

the sad thing about you is you don't even realise how disrespectful your attitude is, thinking that fobs are "inept" at the most simple human things like "equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect".

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

So if you want to define FOB as un-Americanized then sure FOB = socially inept at American style dating.

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

I define American-style dating as looking for love, and giving the girl alot of attention, equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect.

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

Originally Posted by SunWuKong

the sad thing about you is you don't even realise how disrespectful your attitude is, thinking that fobs are "inept" at the most simple human things like "equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect".

Amazing how you continue to try and put words in my mouth when it is only your own pathetic thinking generalizing to fit your own misconceptions.

What world did you come from? Are you trying to tell me these were the priorities for dating for my parents generation? Get real, it had little to do with those characteristics. How often do your parents kiss each other in front of others? Compatibility, financial security, familial obligations were stronger priorities. Do you really think they conceived of women's lib? They respected each other but for the roles that had been traditionally conceived.

"So if you want to define FOB as un-Americanized then sure FOB = socially inept at American style dating."

I stand by what I SAID and NOT by what you say it says, even if cannot grasp by the meaning of it.

If dating in Asia now is more like in America that's western influence. There was NO DATING in traditional Chinese culture.

I just being disrespectful of your pompous attitude and not of my Asian brethren who are born in Asia to be clear.

[kimpossible]

Originally Posted by Chasiubao_Boy

oh lookie lookie....fobs and bobs versus jook sings the sequel.

*clicks seat belt in place*

This is definitely one of those Chinese things I don't get.

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

Originally Posted by Chasiubao_Boy

oh lookie lookie....fobs and bobs versus jook sings the sequel.

It's me vs. SWK. Or as SWK likes to generalize - SWK vs. all Jook Sings with that attitude.

Which is too bad because this thread is better than that.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

Amazing how you continue to try and put words in my mouth when it is only your own pathetic thinking generalizing to fit your own misconceptions.

What world did you come from? Are you trying to tell me these were the priorities for dating for my parents generation? Get real, it had little to do with those characteristics. How often do your parents kiss each other in front of others? Compatibility, financial security, familial obligations were stronger priorities. Do you really think they conceived of women's lib? They respected each other but for the roles that had been traditionally conceived.

"So if you want to define FOB as un-Americanized then sure FOB = socially inept at American style dating."

I stand by what I SAID and NOT by what you say it says, even if cannot grasp by the meaning of it.

If dating in Asia now is more like in America that's western influence. There was NO DATING in traditional Chinese culture.

I just being disrespectful of your pompous attitude and not of my Asian brethren who are born in Asia to be clear.

yeah, Jook Sing. just keep learning about Asian cultures from Amy Tan books.

[Chester]

Originally Posted by SunWuKong

the sad thing about you is you don't even realise how disrespectful your attitude is, thinking that fobs are "inept" at the most simple human things like "equality in the relationship, being openly affectionate, mutual respect".

I can see your point with regard to PJS's earlier post.

But, as I've said before, you yourself have a habit of painting ABCs with a broad, condescending brush.

The quickness with which you sometimes take things personal when this topic comes up strikes me as unproductive, in general, and unseemly, given that you're a moderator.

Which isn't to say that I'm above this sort of thing. But...I'm not a moderator...and a disrespectful "jook sing" besides.

Anyway, you might want to tone that kind of shit down because you're engaging in the same sort of scornful generalizations that you often complain about.

This sort of shit, for example, is totally unnecessary and takes things to an ugly place that even PJS had the dignity to avoid:

yeah, Jook Sing. just keep learning about Asian cultures from Amy Tan books.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Chester

But, as I've said before, you yourself have a habit of painting ABCs with a broad, condescending brush.

kind of hard not to when we've got a great example of a Jook Sing being his unsurprisingly disrespectful self.

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

Originally Posted by SunWuKong

kind of hard not to when we've got a great example of a Jook Sing being his unsurprisingly disrespectful self.

SWK you'll never admit to your own prejudices.

[mr. x]

hoookay this is not good u two

im sure theres a misunderstanding somewhere. so deal with it privately

[Chester]

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

SWK you'll never admit to your own prejudices.

Actually...I think that's sort of what he just did, albeit in a pretty shitty way.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

SWK you'll never admit to your own prejudices.

let me lay it down for you.

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

What world did you come from? Are you trying to tell me these were the priorities for dating for my parents generation? Get real, it had little to do with those characteristics. How often do your parents kiss each other in front of others? Compatibility, financial security, familial obligations were stronger priorities. Do you really think they conceived of women's lib? They respected each other but for the roles that had been traditionally conceived.

If dating in Asia now is more like in America that's western influence. There was NO DATING in traditional Chinese culture.

you are comparing the current society with the society of your parents' generation. you're 34? you're better off comparing your parents to Westerners that were born in the 40s. as if Americans today don't find discrepancies between their dating patterns and that of their parents. get real, fob or not, we are not our parents. like i said, keep reading about Chinese culture from Amy Tan books. even my grandparents had a courtship, and they were born in 1920s rural China. call it "Western influence" if you like, but if you would rather take your parents' generation as evidence of how fobs are instead of taking my word for it for how it is, whereas i have dated girls in Asia and fobby girls in the US, then it's your call. just don't be surprised when i tell you that it's stereotypical Jook Sing mentality.

Originally Posted by Proud_Jook_Sing

I just being disrespectful of your pompous attitude and not of my Asian brethren who are born in Asia to be clear.

oh, you mean sort of like how you think becoming Americanised is an achievement to be praised? where the reverse - not being assimilated - means they are lacking in certain achievements in life? becoming Americanised is just a natural effect of having lived in the US for long periods of time and socialising with American friends. it is no achievement, and it's condescending to think that it is.